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DMM 2回目 (Raven, Irish, lives in Thailand)
2026-05-17講師: Raven (Irish, ex-Germany/China teacher, IELTS specialist, Joe Rogan fan)25 分100 ターン
2回目セッション。 Raven は Dublin 出身、 East Germany と Guizhou で英語教師、 今は Thailand 在住、 IELTS specialist。 共通点が刺さりまくる回: meditation/breathwork、 Buddhism 非執着、 Joe Rogan、 UFC。 COMEDIAN tier は user feedback で却下、 ENGAGED (本物の会話の深さ: 逆質問・vulnerability・specific observation・pushback) に振り切ったバージョン v5。
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生徒 49 / 講師 51 ・ NATIVE化 46/49 ・ ENGAGED化 46/49 ・ chunk = 3文ずつ
NATIVE
俺の表現の修正
自然な native 口語 + 一言しゃれた表現。 明日の自分が言えるべきレベル。
ENGAGED
本物の会話の深さ
punchline じゃない。 逆質問・vulnerability・具体的 observation・pushback。 本気で engaged な native conversationalist が同じトピックでどう返すか。
TEACHER
講師の native 表現
講師は本物の native。 各 chunk をそのまま素材として登録 = pure native input。
- #1講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Hey, good evening.
- #2生徒 (とにお)Hello. Yes, nice to meet you.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/1Hi -- nice to meet you.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/1Hey, good evening, nice to meet you.
- #3講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Nice to meet you. My name is Raven, I will be your tutor today.
- #4生徒 (とにお)Yes, thank you. Um, I am Taishi.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/1Thanks. I'm Taishi.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/2Cool, thanks. I'm Taishi. Quick question before we dive in -- is Raven your actual name, or is that a screen name?ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 2/2I love it either way.
- #5講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Nice to meet you, Taishi.
- #6生徒 (とにお)1/2Yeah, nice to meet you too. And, uh, sorry about the, yeah, I'm good and uh, I'm actually um outside now. And uh, no Wi-Fi, and so, you might hear some kinda noise in the background.2/2And I apologize in advance.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/1Likewise. And just a heads-up -- I'm actually outside right now, no Wi-Fi, so you might catch some background noise. Sorry in advance.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/2Likewise. So real quick, full disclosure -- I'm outside right now, running on mobile data, no Wi-Fi. So if you hear a bus go by or somebody yelling, that's just Tokyo doing its thing.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 2/2Bear with me.
- #7講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Okay. And I notice your, your camera is turned off.
- #8生徒 (とにお)1/2Yes. Because that's, that's why I'm turned, you know, so. Maybe next time, uh, you know, I'm in my, you know, Wi-Fi and yeah I will have my video on, my camera on.2/2But I'm sorry, I apologize in advance.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/1Yeah, that's the reason -- I've got the camera off this time. Next session, once I'm home on Wi-Fi, I'll turn it on. Sorry about that for today.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/1Yeah, that's connected to the no-Wi-Fi thing -- camera eats too much bandwidth out here. Next time I'll be home, on actual Wi-Fi, and I'll have the camera on, you can finally put a face to the voice. Promise.
- #9講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Okay, yeah, no problem at all. So uh let's see. Um, this is our first class so during class if you'd like me to speak faster, slower, or at natural speed, you can let me know.
- #10生徒 (とにお)1/3Ah, natural speed. I'm okay with listening, actually, maybe, yeah, maybe. And if I have trouble understanding, I just ask, you know, what'd you say, yeah I just...2/3so no problem. So my problem is just speaking. So I'm here to speak.3/3Yeah.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/2Natural speed, please. Honestly, my listening is fine -- if I miss something I'll just ask you to repeat it. My weak spot is the speaking side.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 2/2That's actually why I'm here.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/2Natural speed, please -- don't dumb it down for me. Listening is actually my strong side; if something flies over my head I'll just ask you to say it again. The whole reason I'm here is the speaking.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 2/2So please, just talk to me like a regular person.
- #11講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Okay. Nice, so I notice in the notes you'd like to skip the introduction, is that true?
- #12生徒 (とにお)1/4Ah yeah, yeah, but, yeah, it's you know, typical like boring introduction I wanna skip, speak, skip, but... I'm not saying you know I don't wanna introduce myself. Just like, normal kind of like stuff.2/4I don't like the formality or cliché kind of introduction. And I don't, I, you know, I'm Japanese, and I'm trying to speak English here, so that's my explanation, that's my introduction. That's my expressing myself and so that's...3/4Yeah, no, you know, no further some like, I like reading books or kind of, you know, that's I don't, I don't wanna skip... I want to skip that kind of part, that's the only reason. So, but yeah, but here we are like first time talking, so it's very rude to like start...4/4out, you know. So I say, what, uh, can you, could you please explain your background or why you're here and uh your, you know... I wanna your introduction.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/2Yeah, kind of. What I want to skip is the formulaic stuff -- 'I'm Japanese, I like reading, my favorite color is blue. ' That kind of cliché intro.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 2/2I mean, the fact that I'm a Japanese guy trying to speak English -- that already tells you most of what you need to know. But since this is our first time meeting, it'd be rude to skip yours. So I'd actually love to hear about your background -- why you're here, how you got into this.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/3Yeah -- but let me clarify what I mean. I want to skip the formulaic part. The 'I'm Japanese, I like reading, my favorite color is blue' kind of intro.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 2/3To me, the fact that I'm sitting here as a Japanese guy trying to speak English -- that already tells you 80% of who I am. The rest comes out in conversation, naturally, instead of in a checklist. That said, this is our first time meeting, so it'd be rude for me to skip your side.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 3/3So actually -- tell me your story. Where you're from, how you ended up teaching, all of that. I want the real version, not the brochure version.
- #13講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/3Okay, um, so my name is Raven. I come from the South of Ireland, my hometown is Dublin. Uh, my first job when I left college was a newspaper designer.TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 2/3My first teaching position was in Eastern Germany in the 1990s, teaching English to adults close to Berlin. Some years later I got my second teaching position in Southwest China in Guizhou Province, teaching English to children, adults, and doing IELTS preparation. When my contract finished I came to Thailand.TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 3/3I now live in Thailand. And my hobbies, uh, I love cooking, walking, swimming, and meditation.
- #14生徒 (とにお)Meditation! Yeah.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/1Wait -- meditation?ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/1Hold on, you said meditation? Yeah, that's the word that jumped out for me.
- #15講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Yeah.
- #16生徒 (とにお)I do meditate.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/1Yeah, I actually meditate -- daily, give or take.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/1I do meditate, yeah. Nothing flashy, just sitting with it. You doing it yourself?
- #17講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Oh, cool.
- #18生徒 (とにお)What's, what kind of meditation style you take, you know, daily, how long?NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/1What kind of style do you do? Like, daily, and for how long?ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/1What's your flavor? Is it a specific tradition -- something like Vipassana or Zen -- or more your own thing? And how long do you usually sit for?
- #19講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/3I've developed my own meditation style. I focus on my breathing, and I do counting, counting up and down. So I count when I breathe in, and I count when I'm breathing out.TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 2/3So it focuses my mind on just the breathing in and breathing out. That's my main focus. I'm also aware of other stuff, but my main focus is on the breathing part.TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 3/3So um, I don't really think about anything in my meditation, I just focus on breathing. And it's very relaxing.
- #20生徒 (とにお)1/4Yes, very relaxing. Yeah. Yeah, I do meditate, I do like breathwork every day, every single day.2/4Like, uh, do you know Wim Hof? Wim Hof? The, you know.3/4Wim Hof, it's, he's called Ice Man. And he's a Netherland guy, you know, really funny guy doing a lot of public appearances. So you can search.4/4And Wim Hof is a kind of guy that uh, recommending everyone, you know, cold shower, cold you know, uh exposure, cold exposure, and uh breathwork. And he's very famous actually.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/2Yeah, super relaxing. I do breathwork every single day myself. Do you know Wim Hof?NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 2/2He's a Dutch guy, nicknamed 'The Iceman' -- pretty famous, does a lot of public appearances. His whole thing is cold exposure -- cold showers -- plus breathwork. Look him up sometime, he's pretty wild.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/2Yeah, that calm-the-mind angle is exactly it. So I do breathwork every single day -- and this might be a tangent, but do you know Wim Hof? Dutch guy, they call him 'The Iceman.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 2/2' Pretty famous, kind of an eccentric character. His whole method is cold exposure -- cold showers basically -- combined with a specific breathwork pattern. I don't know if it overlaps with your tradition at all, but I'm curious if you've ever come across him in the meditation circles you've moved through, especially in Germany or China.
- #21講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Okay.
- #22生徒 (とにお)1/2And yeah I do Wim Hof method every day. Cold shower. I take a cold shower.2/2Take a cold shower every single day.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/1Yeah, I do the Wim Hof method daily. Including the cold shower -- every single day.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/1Yeah, I'm doing the full method daily, cold shower included. Every single day, no skipping. The cold shower part is the worst sell to people, but it's actually the engine of the whole thing.
- #23講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1A cold shower. Okay.
- #24生徒 (とにお)Now in it's getting, yeah cold shower, yeah getting warmer, so it's a bit easy but in winter it's you know, challenge, it's very hard to take a cold shower in the winter.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/1It's getting warmer now, so it's a bit easier. But in winter -- man, that's the real challenge. Standing under cold water in January takes serious willpower.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/3Right now it's getting warmer, so the cold shower is honestly not that bad. But in winter? Different story.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 2/3There's this 10-second window where you're standing there, mind screaming 'don't do it,' and you have to just... step in anyway. That moment is the actual practice, honestly.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 3/3The shower itself is almost secondary.
- #25講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Yeah, and uh, what is the concept behind cold showers? What is the purpose?
- #26生徒 (とにお)1/5Concept, uh... It just gets you like adrenaline, you know, gets you, you know, it's very, uh... anti-depressant.2/5First of all. When you start a cold shower, your day, and it's kind of... adrenaline is flowing.3/5It's a shock. Yes. Obvious.4/5Yeah. Shocking your system, and... and as Wim Hof always said, uh, one cold shower a day keeps doctors away.5/5And I think it's actually true.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/2The concept is basically -- it triggers an adrenaline rush. It's an anti-depressant, first of all. You start your day with a cold shower and your whole system gets shocked awake.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 2/2Wim Hof has this line: 'One cold shower a day keeps the doctor away. ' And honestly, I think it's true.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/2So the basic concept is, it's an adrenaline trigger and -- I'd argue -- a legitimate anti-depressant. You shock your system on purpose, first thing in the morning, and it kind of resets your whole day. Wim Hof has this line: 'one cold shower a day keeps the doctor away.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 2/2' Sounds like a cheesy slogan, I know, but from doing it for years I'd actually back that claim up. Have you ever experimented with anything similar in your meditation -- like cold water or temperature stuff?
- #27講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Yeah.
- #28生徒 (とにお)It's cold shower saved me, actually saved my life, actually. Wow. Not in a, I'm not talking in a light way here.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/1Cold showers actually saved my life. And I don't mean that as a casual figure of speech.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/2And I want to be clear -- cold showers literally saved my life. I'm not throwing that around as a casual figure of speech. I mean it.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 2/2There was a stretch where it was the one thing I could rely on to reset my head when nothing else was working.
- #29講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Mhm.
- #30生徒 (とにお)Actually cold shower and breathwork. 10 minutes breathwork daily, like you like take a heavy deep breath and you know, heavy breathing, you know, uh 30 times and uh stop breathing for like one, one or two minutes.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/1It's both, really -- cold shower plus breathwork. The breathwork is about 10 minutes a day: deep heavy breathing, maybe 30 cycles, then holding the breath for a minute or two at the end.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/2Cold shower plus the breathwork. The breathwork is roughly 10 minutes a day. You do these 30 deep, heavy breaths -- almost like hyperventilating on purpose -- and then on the last exhale you just stop breathing and hold for one or two minutes.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 2/2Sounds insane when you describe it out loud, but the head-space it puts you in is wild.
- #31講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Okay.
- #32生徒 (とにお)1/3That really affects, that really works. Yeah, I'm a proof. I'm doing this, I've been doing this for 3 or 5, 5 years now.2/3So I can really recommend anyone, it's it's a really lifesaver. Yes, it really works. I guarantee it.3/3So, um, so that's why I'm really actually uh interested in you know, your saying meditation, yeah. That's my meditation also, yeah.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/2And it genuinely works. I'm exhibit A -- I've been doing it for about five years now. So I can recommend it to anyone without hesitation.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 2/2It's a real lifesaver. I guarantee you it works. That's why I got so excited when you mentioned meditation -- this is basically my version of meditation, too.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/2And it genuinely works -- I'm exhibit A on this one, I've been doing it for about five years straight. So when you said meditation, that's why my ears perked up. We're basically describing the same thing through different doors.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 2/2Yours is the long breath-counting path, mine is the cold-shock-and-breath-hold path -- but I think the destination is the same. Calming the mind, getting out of your own head for a minute. How long did it take you, by the way, to feel like your practice actually started doing something?
- #33講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/4Okay, yeah, you have your own style, the shower, the cold shower and breathing... breathing technique. Okay.TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 2/4Well that sounds interesting. Um... yeah.TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 3/4Uh, well my, my breathing technique is uh it's pretty simple, I just breathe in deeply and breathe out strongly. Um... focus on breathing, keeping my breaths full.TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 4/4And I do it for half an hour. That's my goal.
- #34生徒 (とにお)Half an hour! Wow!NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/1Half an hour? That's serious.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/2Half an hour?? Wait, that's a serious sit. Most people tap out at five minutes.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 2/2Respect.
- #35講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/2So that is, that works perfectly for me. I've been doing that for quite a few years now. Um...TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 2/2It definitely helps to calm... calms the mind. Uh, that's why I love meditation, it helps me to calm my mind.
- #36生徒 (とにお)But you are not into kind of Buddhism or, you know, deep kind of Christianity or like, you know, that kind of like... eccentric stuff?NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/1But you're not into Buddhism or any specific religious tradition -- Christianity, anything like that?ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/1But you're not approaching it through a specific tradition though, right? Like, you're not coming at it from Buddhism, or deep Christianity, or any of the more religious, structured stuff? It sounds more like a personal practice than a belief system.
- #37講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/2Um, well I am a Christian, I'm a Catholic. Um, I try to go to mass every week. And I also practiced um Buddhism, I learned about it, it's very interesting, yeah, I really like some of the concepts in Buddhism actually.TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 2/2Uh non-attachment is my favorite.
- #38生徒 (とにお)1/2Yeah. Non-attachment. Yes.2/2Yes. Letting go of yourself, yeah.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/1Yeah, non-attachment -- letting go of the self.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/2Right, non-attachment. That one. The whole 'letting go of the self' piece.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 2/2That's the one Buddhist concept I keep circling back to, too -- and honestly, the hardest one to actually live.
- #39講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Letting go of attachment to things, yeah. That is a very interesting...
- #40生徒 (とにお)That's very difficult. Yes. It's the last thing human can do, yeah.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/1That's really hard, though. It might be the last thing a human can actually pull off.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/2And it's brutally hard, right? Honestly, I'd argue it's the last thing a human ever fully accomplishes. We can let go of stuff, money, even people -- but letting go of our attachment to our own self-image?ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 2/2That's the boss level.
- #41講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/2To calm... the mind. Um, yeah.TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 2/2So let me see. Do you have any other questions about my introduction?
- #42生徒 (とにお)Um, you kinda really spoke fast you know introduction, I couldn't follow I couldn't follow anything, everything, but you know I can I can get the gist of you know. You are really, all over the world like, you know, teaching. Maybe especially now in...NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/2Honestly, you went through your introduction pretty fast -- I didn't catch every detail. But I got the gist. You've been all over the world teaching.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 2/2Now you're in...ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/2Honestly, you flew through that intro pretty fast and I lost some of the details -- but I got the gist. You've basically been a teaching nomad. Bouncing across the globe.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 2/2Now you're in --
- #43講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1I was teaching I was teaching in Germany and China.
- #44生徒 (とにお)Germany, you studied in Germany and uh moving for moving to the uh China, and uh now you're ending up in Thailand, maybe. Yeah, so, I heard that part. And yeah, maybe very special, you know, very good at and uh specialist in talking up speaking uh, sorry, teaching English.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/1Right, you taught in Germany, then moved to China, and you've ended up in Thailand. Yeah, I caught that part. Sounds like you're seriously specialized at this -- a real veteran in teaching English.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/2Right -- Germany, then China, then Thailand. That's a hell of a trajectory. Sounds like you've genuinely lived the teach-abroad life, not just dipped your toes in.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 2/2Quick side question -- of the three, where felt most like home? I'm curious which one stuck.
- #45講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Mhm, yeah.
- #46生徒 (とにお)1/2Yeah, so I'm very uh... counting on you. I'm very, you know, uh, happy.2/2I'm glad hearing your background career, you know, professional career.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/1So I'm really counting on you. I'm genuinely glad I'm hearing about your background -- your professional track record.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/1So yeah, I'm putting myself in good hands here. Honestly relieved -- when you hear someone's been doing this for decades across three countries, you kind of relax. I came in nervous; now I'm thinking, okay, I'm with a pro.
- #47講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Yeah, um, yeah, so I specialize, I specialize in teaching IELTS.
- #48生徒 (とにお)IELTS. Oh.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/1Ah, IELTS.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/1IELTS, ah okay -- noted.
- #49講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/2Yeah. IELTS is an exam for, um... it's for, especially for students who want to study abroad in an English college.TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 2/2So if you're Japanese and you want to go to England, the course is taught through English, so you have to prove that you have a good level of English before you start the course. That is an IELTS exam.
- #50生徒 (とにお)1/5Yeah, I took TOEFL, you know, I actually studied abroad a little bit, yeah, for months, you know, it's not like serious stuff, just exchange, like a few months. And uh, yeah, but I did. You know, so I know about what you're talking about IELTS, TOEFL, not not about TOEIC.2/5TOEIC is like domestic Japanese, crazy, you know, industry. It's not, nothing to do with actual speaking or actual English skill. But yeah, so I know about the TO...3/5you know, uh IELTS. But I never took, I never, you know, took TOEFL test. And yeah, but so, yeah, yeah, so I totally understand what you're saying and uh, what your professional and uh it's very useful, uh, it's very helpful job, right?4/5Helping people. And yeah, you know, if I, if I'm young, you know, I'm so, I'm not young anymore, so, but if you are like, if I am, if I are like like a teenager, it's really, yeah, I would very eager to speak and you know eager, trying, uh, study English, and... but now it's kind of like mature and uh I'm not, I'm no longer like trying to be a...5/5kind of like, good, um, I'm kind of, you know, letting go of myself and uh, yeah.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/3Yeah, I took TOEFL, actually -- I studied abroad for a few months, just an exchange thing, nothing too serious. Sorry, I meant I'm familiar with what IELTS is, and TOEFL too -- but TOEIC is a whole different beast. TOEIC is this crazy domestic-Japan industry, and honestly it has nothing to do with actual speaking or real English skill.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 2/3Anyway, I totally get what you're describing -- it's a really useful, helpful job, genuinely helping people. If I were a teenager, I'd be all in -- eager to speak, hungry to study. But I'm not a teenager anymore.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 3/3At this point I've kind of let go of trying to be the model English student. So my mindset is different now.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/4Yeah, I actually took TOEFL once -- I did an exchange abroad, a few months, nothing serious. So I know what IELTS and TOEFL are. TOEIC, though, is a different animal entirely.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 2/4TOEIC is this absolutely massive Japanese-domestic industry, billions of yen, but it has next to nothing to do with actual speaking or real-world English. That's worth saying out loud, because outside Japan most people don't know that gap exists. Anyway, what you do -- IELTS prep, helping someone clear the bar to actually go study abroad -- that's a real, useful job.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 3/4Helping people change their lives. Here's the thing though: if I'd met you when I was a teenager, I'd be all over it. Hungry.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 4/4Cramming. But at this stage of life, I've let go of the 'I have to be the perfect English student' thing. I'm here for completely different reasons, which probably isn't your usual customer.
- #51講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1You're not, you're not a teenager.
- #52生徒 (とにお)Yeah, not a teenager and uh... kind of surrendering to life.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/1Yeah, not a teenager anymore. And honestly, kind of surrendering to life.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/2Yeah -- not a teenager. And more than that, I'm kind of... surrendering to life, if that makes sense.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 2/2Not in a sad way -- it's actually freeing.
- #53講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1I'm sorry, what was that?
- #54生徒 (とにお)Surrendering, you know, I'm not...NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/1Surrendering -- you know, like...ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/1Surrendering. Like, letting go of the grip. I'm not sure if it lands in English the way I mean it --
- #55講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Surrender, you're, you're not surrendering.
- #56生徒 (とにお)1/2I'm surrendering, yeah. Not, you know. I gave up my life in a way that I try, you know, I'm not trying to build up my career or trying to achieve, you know, some kind of things that, uh, really, uh, you know, I'm not trying to be...2/2trying to, how to say, put my career or, you know, I'm now like just, how to say, that... very, um... I wanna try to be a, be myself.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/3I am surrendering, yeah -- in a sense. I've kind of given up the climbing part of life. I'm not building a career.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 2/3I'm not chasing achievements. I'm not trying to position myself for anything. At this point, all I really want is to just...NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 3/3be myself.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/3Yeah, I am surrendering -- and let me reframe that, because 'surrender' in English sounds defeated, but that's not what I mean. It's more like, I've stepped off the climbing wall. I'm not building a career.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 2/3I'm not chasing achievements. I'm not strategizing my position in society. What I'm trying to do at this point is just -- be myself.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 3/3Sounds simple, but it's actually a full-time job.
- #57講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Okay. Mhm.
- #58生徒 (とにお)As it is.ネイティブ版未登録
- #59講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Yeah, be unique, be yourself.
- #60生徒 (とにお)Yeah, unique, yourself. Be, yeah...NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/1Yeah, unique, be yourself, exactly.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/1Yeah, that -- be yourself, unique, all of that. Although 'unique' has gotten a little overused in self-help, hasn't it? But yeah, you get the idea.
- #61講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Be authentic is a nice word.
- #62生徒 (とにお)Authentic, yes. Yes, authentic, yeah.ネイティブ版未登録
- #63講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/2Yeah, no I totally understand, it's, it's a good quality. Uh people, many people think they have to live a life uh the way, according to what society wants. You should be polite, you should be...TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 2/2say this, you should always stay polite things, you should always do this and you should always do that. That's what it seems society wants us all to behave the same way. And that's not always possible.
- #64生徒 (とにお)Especially in Japan. Yeah, peer pressure and uh, you know, rat race, really you know, very, it's... very, in young age you are right, it's cultural thing, right?NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/2Especially in Japan. Peer pressure, the rat race -- it's brutal here. And like you said, it really hits hard from a young age.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 2/2It's a cultural thing.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/2And it's brutal in Japan especially. Peer pressure, the rat race -- it starts terrifyingly young here. You're already being shaped by it in elementary school.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 2/2So when you said society expects you to all behave the same way -- that maps onto Japan almost perfectly. Word for word.
- #65講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/3Almost, um... it's yeah you are taught to achieve and try to achieve try to achieve in your life and uh... um...TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 2/3how to say... uh... what can we say, and...TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 3/3um... what's it called, fear of missing out, fear of missing out, or...
- #66生徒 (とにお)1/4Yeah, FOMO. It's called FOMO, right? Like it's...2/4and uh, you only live once kind of thing. Mhm. Really...3/4um, deep-seated... ingrained in our brain. Yeah.4/4But it's universal thing, it's not in Japan. But yeah, I want to educate, I want to graduate from that kind of thing.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/2Yeah, FOMO -- that's the word, right? Fear of missing out. Plus the whole 'you only live once' messaging.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 2/2It's deeply ingrained in our brains. To be fair, it's a universal thing, not just Japan. But personally, I want to graduate from all of that.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/3Yeah, FOMO -- exactly. Fear of missing out. And that, combined with the 'you only live once' messaging -- it's deeply ingrained in our brains.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 2/3And to be fair, it's not just Japan -- it's universal at this point, the whole modern world runs on it. But personally, I want to graduate from it. Not fight against it, just...ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 3/3outgrow it. Quietly walk out the back door.
- #67講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/2Well you know, in another way, um it's a slightly different subject, but I can see I can see the way, um, there definitely seems to be, um, men in today's world are think they're being or in a way are being forced to behave in a certain way all the time. Mhm. You don't show emotion, you never show anger.TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 2/2Um, you just work hard, um you take care of your family. Uh there's no there's no leniency to to get up and shout and be angry if you really want to. Um and reject what's being said, it's, um, men are being taught, I believe, to accept everything that the world is giving them.
- #68生徒 (とにお)1/5Yeah, but yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's tough, right? World is crazy. I'm I'm not following, and I have, you know, I'm just using an English phrase, no dog in the fight, in political situation or religious situation, I don't know, I'm not following, I'm not familiar with what happening in the world right now, but I sense I'm sensing that uh, it's not going towards a good way, you know.2/5Um, but it's not my issue, it's I cannot control like, you know, Donald Trump doing something it's not my out of my you know, control. So I don't control or I don't have specific opinions about that. But yeah, but it's very, how to say, um, we are really, um...3/5struggling to express themselves, ourselves in a natural way, you know, uh, when you are young, you know, it's really you are natural, and uh, you're doing the stuff and uh and you know, it's natural that you express yourself in your natural way. Mhm. But now, but, you know, as you're growing up and uh education comes in, education sneaks up, you know it's very, uh, education does a job...4/5and uh, yeah, now yeah people like very stuck. And uh I'm stuck, oh, you know, I'm not, you know, I'm just talking about myself. I'm struggling daily and uh stuck, and...5/5when it comes to everything, you know, speaking English, or... But by the way, I I did I did start uh speaking English like yesterday, so you are the second guy, you know, yesterday I started really started. I haven't talked in...NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/7Yeah, it's tough though. The world is crazy. I -- and I'll use the English phrase here -- I've got no dog in the fight, politically or religiously.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 2/7I'm not really following what's going on, but I sense things aren't heading in a good direction. That said, it's not my problem to solve. I can't control what Donald Trump does, it's out of my hands.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 3/7So I don't really hold strong opinions on it. But what hits closer to home is -- we're all struggling to express ourselves in a natural way. When you're young, you're just naturally yourself.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 4/7You do your thing. But as you grow up, education slowly creeps in and does its number on you. And now everyone's stuck.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 5/7I'm stuck -- I'm just talking about myself here -- I'm struggling daily, completely stuck. With everything. Speaking English, all of it.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 6/7By the way, I actually only started speaking English again yesterday. So you're literally the second person I'm doing this with. Yesterday was the first.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 7/7I hadn't spoken English in --ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/7Yeah, but it's tough. The world is crazy right now. And to use an English phrase I love -- I've got no dog in the fight.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 2/7Politically, religiously, none of it. I'm not closely following what's happening. I just sense things aren't trending in a good direction.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 3/7But that's not my problem to fix. What Donald Trump does is way out of my orbit -- I don't form strong opinions on stuff I can't influence. But what you said about men being taught to accept everything -- that goes deeper, actually.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 4/7We're all struggling to express ourselves in a natural way. When you're a kid you just are yourself, you don't think about it. Then education slowly creeps in -- it sneaks up on you, decade by decade -- and does its number.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 5/7And by the time you're an adult, everyone's stuck. I'm stuck. I'm not generalizing -- I'm describing me.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 6/7I'm struggling every single day. Stuck in every direction. Speaking English is just one symptom of the bigger thing.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 7/7Oh, side note, kind of relevant: I literally only started speaking English again yesterday. You're the second person I've spoken English with in years. I hadn't said an English sentence out loud in --
- #69講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1You started, you started...
- #70生徒 (とにお)1/3Started in in speaking English, in years. I didn't you know, I haven't speak, you know, spoken English in years, I spoken, yeah. So it's I'm building up I'm warming up or yeah, now.2/3But you know, I did, I was serious, like um, when I was uh, how to say, high school, you know, university student or, you know, 10 years ago I was serious about English speaking but now I'm kind of different, I have a different agenda. And uh, it's not about perfecting English or... like, how to say, showing off or kind of stuff I I gave up.3/3But, but here I am trying to doing something serious and you know, very clean slate, and very you know fresh starting, so, so I'm back, and um started to pick up again. Yeah.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/4Yeah, started speaking English -- after years. I literally hadn't spoken English in years before yesterday. So right now I'm in warm-up mode, building it back up.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 2/4Back in high school and university, ten years ago, I was dead serious about English. But now I've got a totally different agenda. I'm not chasing perfect English.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 3/4I'm not trying to show off anymore -- I gave up on that. Yet here I am, doing something serious. Clean slate, fresh start.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 4/4I'm back. Picking it up again.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/5Yeah -- speaking English. After years. I literally hadn't said an English sentence in years before yesterday.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 2/5So right now I'm in warm-up mode, building muscle that completely atrophied. Back in high school, and university, like 10 years ago, I was dead serious about English. Cramming, vocab lists, all of it.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 3/5But here's the thing -- I'm back, but with a completely different agenda. It's not about perfecting English anymore. Not about showing off.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 4/5I gave up on the showing-off layer years ago. What I'm doing now is harder to describe -- something more like, I want to see if I can be myself in another language. Clean slate.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 5/5So yeah, here I am, picking it up again. From scratch, in a way.
- #71講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Ah, I see, yeah. Okay, that is interesting. Have you ever heard of the expression "modus operandi"?
- #72生徒 (とにお)Modus operandi. Yeah, M-O, yeah I heard of that.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/1Modus operandi -- yeah, M. O. , I know that one.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/2Modus operandi -- yeah, M. O. for short.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 2/2I know the phrase. Mostly from crime shows, to be honest.
- #73講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1So if I were to ask you what do you think your modus operandi in life is...
- #74生徒 (とにお)Purpose. Goal.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/1Like -- my purpose? My goal in life?ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/1You mean like -- my driving purpose? My core goal? Let me actually sit with that for a second.
- #75講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Yeah, what's what would be what is the main thing that drives you forward?
- #76生徒 (とにお)Drives me forward... yeah... mm...NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/1What drives me forward... yeah... hmm.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/2What drives me forward... yeah. ...ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 2/2Honestly, that's a great question that I'm not sure I have a clean answer to. Give me a second.
- #77講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1It's just a general general question. Um, meant to stimulate, like what uh what would be the main motive, your main motivation?
- #78生徒 (とにお)Yeah, my motivation is not having motivation. To drive me...NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/1Yeah, my motivation is actually -- not having a motivation. Nothing driving me.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/1Yeah, my honest answer is -- my motivation is not having one. That's a weird sentence, I know. Hang on, let me unpack it.
- #79講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Your motivation is to not have a motivation.
- #80生徒 (とにお)1/6Yeah, it's kind of contradictory or like... a little bit cliché or you know, cocky, but yeah, I don't have a motivation to drive me, I just live, you know, life is first, right? Motivation second.2/6So... um... and um...3/6I'm not gonna lie. My motivation is it's, you know, English. Yeah, English, you know, I'm also I'm just interested in English.4/6Actually, I'm not interested in speaking. Because me talking, you know, some kind of like trash English, broken English, that it's not going anywhere. But when it comes to listening, you know, I'm listening to the uh listening to a lot of uh English podcasts or YouTube videos, about English speakers, very, you know, just talking their stuff.5/6Uh it's not like tutorial stuff, you know, English learning stuff, it's it's I don't I'm not paying attention, you know, I'm not interested in that. Just they speak. They speak their English.6/6Their daily lives, struggles. So that's my how to say...NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/5Yeah, I know -- it sounds contradictory. A bit cliché, maybe even cocky. But I don't have a motivation driving me anymore.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 2/5I just live. Life first, motivation second. Although -- I'm not gonna lie -- my motivation, if I really have one, is English.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 3/5Yeah, English. I'm just genuinely interested in it. But here's the twist -- I'm not interested in speaking.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 4/5Because me sitting there spitting out broken, trashy English -- that's not getting me anywhere. What I love is listening. I listen to a ton of English podcasts and YouTube videos -- regular native speakers just doing their thing.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 5/5Not tutorial content, not 'English learning' material -- I tune that stuff out. I just want to hear native speakers talking about their daily lives, their struggles. That's my --ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/6Yeah, I know, it sounds contradictory. A bit cliché. Maybe even cocky.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 2/6But the honest version is -- I don't have a motivation pushing me anymore. I just live. Life is first, motivation is second, kind of in reverse.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 3/6Although -- I'm not going to lie to you -- if I'm being honest with myself, my motivation does have a name, and it's English. I'm just genuinely interested in English as a thing. Here's the twist though -- I'm not particularly interested in speaking it.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 4/6Because me producing broken, trashy English on output is not, by itself, getting me anywhere meaningful. What I actually love is listening. I'm consuming a ton of English podcasts, YouTube videos -- regular native speakers just talking about their lives.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 5/6And explicitly not tutorial content -- I tune that stuff out, it bores me. What I want is to hear actual humans speaking actual English, struggling, joking, telling stories about their daily lives. That's my whole thing, honestly.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 6/6Which is maybe a weird relationship with a language.
- #81講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1So you're mainly interested in listening, is that right?
- #82生徒 (とにお)Yeah, listening, yes. Exactly. Yeah.ネイティブ版未登録
- #83講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Okay, that is nice, it's a good skill. Listening is a very good skill.
- #84生徒 (とにお)1/3Because if you are, you know, unless you can actually really listen, there's no next step, right? You know, you talk, you just a monologue, right? Many Japanese people are struggling maybe hearing English or listening English, but just it's listening first, my main main, like motive, yeah.2/3Uh because unless you can, you can't listen, you can't hear what they are saying, there is no next step. But listening part, 1-on-1, I'm very uh it's easy for me. I can hear you 100%.3/3But when it, you know, but yeah, but you know, it's movies are really uh a different animal, right? It's very difficult to listen to the, how say, native's speaking. That's why I don't know why, but it's really really hard to understand what you're saying, it's they are mumbling all the time.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/3Right, because if you can't actually listen, there's no next step, right? Otherwise you're just delivering a monologue. A ton of Japanese people struggle with listening to English, but for me, listening is the core motive.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 2/3If you can't catch what the other person is saying, the conversation ends right there. One-on-one listening is easy for me -- I can catch 100% of what you're saying. But movies?NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 3/3Movies are a whole different beast. It's incredibly hard to follow native speakers in films. I don't know why, but they mumble constantly.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/4Right, because here's the logic: if you can't actually listen, there's no next step. The conversation dies. You're just delivering a monologue at someone.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 2/4A lot of Japanese learners struggle with this -- they focus on speaking but skip the listening foundation, so they can spit a sentence but can't catch the reply. For me it goes in reverse. One-on-one, I'm at 100% with you, no problem.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 3/4But here's where it falls apart -- movies. Movies are a completely different animal. Native speakers in films mumble constantly, and I lose 40% of what's being said.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 4/4Do you find that yourself with Spanish or Chinese -- the gap between one-on-one and a movie? Because for me that gap is a canyon.
- #85講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/3Well. Uh yeah so well, it's um you know it's good to experience different types of movies. Sometimes they speak easy English in movies and sometimes uh the English is very fast like an American movie.TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 2/3So yeah it must be pretty difficult. Um... But uh there's there's also the option of listening to songs, the lyrics of songs.TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 3/3You get the subtitles of the songs, that is a that's another good option.
- #86生徒 (とにお)Yes. Subtitles, uh yeah, always with subtitles, yeah, on YouTubes. But yeah...NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/1Yeah, subtitles -- I always use subtitles, especially on YouTube.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/2Yeah, subtitles -- I'm basically married to them. Always on. Especially on YouTube.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 2/2Although honestly, I'm starting to worry I lean on them too much.
- #87講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Do you listen to podcasts daily? English podcasts? What's your favorites or daily thing?
- #88生徒 (とにお)1/2Stuff? Because I'm... There's, let's see.2/2The only, the only podcast I listen to is the Joe Rogan Experience.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/1My daily go-to? Honestly, the only podcast I really listen to is the Joe Rogan Experience.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/2My daily one? Honestly, brace yourself -- the only podcast I genuinely listen to is the Joe Rogan Experience. I know, it's a whole thing.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 2/2People either love him or hate him.
- #89講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Yeah.
- #90講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Hi.
- #91生徒 (とにお)Yeah, hey, back again.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/1Yeah, hey, I'm back.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/1Yeah, hey -- back online. Sorry, my connection dropped out for a sec.
- #92講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1So what's your recommendation actually? Simply.
- #93生徒 (とにお)1/2So next time I will check, and I will book you again, and I will actually talk about that. Because that's a, you know, very kinda connect us, right? Because actually I listen to you and uh what's your recommendation?2/2YouTube, um... I I...NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/2Next time I'll come better prepared, and I'll book you again -- we can dig into that properly. Because that's honestly a topic that could connect us. Actually, before I answer, let me flip it -- what's your recommendation?NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 2/2Any YouTube or...ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/3Next time I'll come prepared, and I'll book you again, and we can dig into that properly -- because that's the kind of topic where we could actually connect, right? Real conversation, not just lesson Q&A. But actually -- let me flip the question.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 2/3Before I answer, what's your recommendation? You mentioned podcasts. What's on your rotation?ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 3/3YouTube, anything --
- #94講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Um, my recommendation, well... I listen I only listen to one podcast, that's the Joe Rogan Experience.
- #95生徒 (とにお)1/2Joe Rogan! Oh my gosh. It's Joe Rogan is my favorite.2/2My go-to.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/1Joe Rogan?! No way. Joe Rogan's my favorite too -- he's my go-to.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/2Joe Rogan?? Wait, no way -- that's exactly my answer too. He's literally my go-to.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 2/2Okay, the chances of two random people on a DMM lesson both having JRE as their only podcast -- pretty wild. We're on the same wavelength here.
- #96講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Oh, wow. Go-to, yeah, he's uh, he always has interesting guests, he's a very smart guy, he also...
- #97生徒 (とにお)Smart, yeah, very smart.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/1Smart -- yeah, seriously smart.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/1Yeah, seriously smart -- and underrated as a thinker, I think. People underestimate how sharp he is because of the bro image.
- #98講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Very smart guy. Um, I'm also a big I'm a really big uh UFC fan. I always watch the UFC so um I like his commentary, yeah, I like uh the MMA world, so um he's he's a very good commentator, he always commentates on the...
- #99生徒 (とにお)1/3Yeah, yeah, yeah. So next time we're gonna talk about Joe Rogan. And uh yeah, my English, yeah I yeah UFC, Joe Rogan is my go-to guy, so really, you know, oh, I'm hyped.2/3Ah, thank you so much! Maybe you know, time's up, and next time, yeah, camera on, and uh I will talk about real serious stuff with Joe Rogan. Thank you so much.3/3Bye-bye. Have a good night.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/4Right, right, right. So next time -- we're talking Joe Rogan. And UFC.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 2/4He's my go-to. Honestly, I'm hyped right now. Thank you so much.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 3/4Looks like time's up. Next session -- camera on, and we'll do a deep dive on JRE. Thanks again.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 4/4Bye-bye, have a good night.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/3Right, right, right -- okay, that's the deal then. Next session is officially the Joe Rogan + UFC episode. Camera on, no more excuses.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 2/3Honestly I'm hyped right now -- I came in tired and now I want to keep going. Look at the time though, we're done. Thank you, seriously.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 3/3This was way more than just a lesson. Bye-bye, have a great night.
- #100講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Okay, see you next time.