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DMM 9回目 (British teacher 2回目 -- 外出 mobile data / Steve Jobs 歩く / Vibe Coding / AI 1年生 / Open AI 由来 / 2036 tipping point / Claude Code wall / 創造系AI まだダメ / GPT 媚び / DMM ありがたみ)
2026-05-24講師: British teacher (lives in Andalusia)92 ターン
8 PM mp3 verbatim transcript. Trivial turns (greetings, audio checks, single-word backchannels) intentionally left without native/engaged.
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生徒 49 / 講師 43 ・ NATIVE化 18/49 ・ ENGAGED化 18/49 ・ chunk = 3文ずつ
NATIVE
俺の表現の修正
自然な native 口語 + 一言しゃれた表現。 明日の自分が言えるべきレベル。
ENGAGED
本物の会話の深さ
punchline じゃない。 逆質問・vulnerability・具体的 observation・pushback。 本気で engaged な native conversationalist が同じトピックでどう返すか。
TEACHER
講師の native 表現
講師は本物の native。 各 chunk をそのまま素材として登録 = pure native input。
- #1生徒 (とにお)Helloネイティブ版未登録
- #2講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Hello, how's it going, how was your day?
- #3生徒 (とにお)1/2Yeah. Good. How are you?2/2How's it going?ネイティブ版未登録
- #4講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/2Not too bad, it's a bit on the uh humid side I feel like here. Ah. Cause it's somewhat hot but it's cloudy.TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 2/2Um so it's a bit muggy.
- #5生徒 (とにお)Spain, you are in Andalusia. Muggy.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/1Right, you're in Andalusia, Spain. Muggy -- that's a great word.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/1Andalusia, right. 'Muggy' -- I'm pocketing that one. We just say 'humid' but muggy hits harder.
- #6講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1In yes in uh on the west side of Andalusia, yes.
- #7生徒 (とにお)Ah uh you know obviously I'm outside right now and uh it's you know camera office effect you know there's a bandwidth. I cannot you know move on data, running on mobile data so.ネイティブ版未登録
- #8生徒 (とにお)Can you hear me?ネイティブ版未登録
- #9講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/2I can hear you, yes. I know what you mean. You're en route.TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 2/2En route on the train station or something.
- #10生徒 (とにお)1/3Yes. On my way to the home right now and yeah. And you know, so not the disclosure thing but I'm it's already you know always outside maybe third time but it's not I'm not doing this intentionally.2/3Um because half of the teachers I spoke with uh I'm just I can easily I did on the uh in my office in full Wi-Fi, camera on. But I don't know somehow but you know when I choose you, when I chose you it's you know weekends. Uh I can't use my office so I so this is like you know forced situation, not my intentionally I'm not intentionally doing this.3/3So next time maybe you know uh we can talk in uh in my uh office on the Friday.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/2Yeah, on my way home right now. Quick disclosure -- this is the third time you've caught me outside, and it's not intentional. About half my teachers I do from my office, full Wi-Fi, camera on.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 2/2But you and I keep landing on weekends, and the office is closed weekends, so this is a forced setup, not my choice. Next time I'll try a Friday slot from my office.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/2Quick confession -- this is the third outdoor lesson with you, and the pattern isn't random. Weekday teachers get the office setup. You always land on weekends, so you keep getting the mobile-data version of me.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 2/2Sorry about that. Let me hunt for a Friday slot next time so you finally see what my real setup looks like.
- #11講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Well sometimes you do your lessons at your workplace in the office.
- #12生徒 (とにお)Yes, not yeah.ネイティブ版未登録
- #13講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Right right right, but at the weekends you're not going to the office so you use your data on your mobile.
- #14生徒 (とにお)Yeah.ネイティブ版未登録
- #15生徒 (とにお)Yes.ネイティブ版未登録
- #16講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Okay. Fair enough.
- #17生徒 (とにお)1/4So. Yeah. So.2/4And yeah. But it's kinda like refreshing or um you know some of the ideas, new ideas are good stuff coming when you are walking you know, take a walk and uh doing noth you know it's walking just stimulates your brain. Right?3/4Steve Jobs for example. He hates, he hated the like casual, formal meeting style. When whenever you he wants to some new idea or break the mold you know something finding a new stuff, he walks and uh you know and uh yeah.4/4So the idea kinda you know coming down, ideas coming up naturally when you are walk. So that some kind of like knowledge or the method is really there when you are walking. Not like sitting there.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/2Honestly, walking is kind of refreshing -- new ideas come when you're walking. It just stimulates the brain. Steve Jobs is the classic example -- he hated formal meetings.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 2/2Whenever he wanted to break the mold or find a new angle, he walked. Ideas come up naturally when you're walking, not when you're stuck sitting there.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/2There's something funny about the productivity world -- everyone says 'sit down and focus,' but the people who actually crack stuff open walk. Steve Jobs hated formal meetings -- whenever he needed to break the mold, he walked. The not-trying is the trick.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 2/2Walking is where the thinking actually happens.
- #18講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Right right right yeah you might be like mulling things over.
- #19生徒 (とにお)Yes.ネイティブ版未登録
- #20講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1If you're not like listening to music or something, yeah. I know what you mean. It's good uh reflection time, walking.
- #21生徒 (とにお)1/2Yeah. Mulling, mulling things over, yeah. Good expression, yeah.2/2Yeah I'm also like you know creating my own app on English app recently. Uh focused only like speaking side and uh have you heard of the Vibe Coding, you know Vibe Coding?NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/1Yeah -- 'mulling things over,' that's a great expression, I'm pocketing that. So I've been building my own English app recently -- speaking-focused. Have you heard of 'vibe coding'?ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/1Mulling things over -- love that. Speaking of which, I've been mulling over an app I'm actually building -- speaking-side English training. Quick tangent -- have you heard the term 'vibe coding'?
- #22講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Vibe coding?
- #23生徒 (とにお)Yeah vibe, you know it's like a good vibe.ネイティブ版未登録
- #24講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Like vibing with something.
- #25生徒 (とにお)1/8Yeah yeah yeah maybe you can you can just search, look look into that because this word is actually English. Vibe coding. It's...2/8yeah let me let me let me clarify because. So. Now you know AI, we are living in the AI era.3/8And so you know it's like five or ten years ago when you want to build an app, you have to learn, you have to learn the coding, the language of coding. And you you should be a like serious you know engineer to build the app. So.4/8But nowadays, these days, it's changed and uh you can skip the coding part. You can actually can build the app that's suiting for you that's solving your problem with just vibe coding. Vibe coding meaning just the you know if you are like talking to the uh just just voice you know you uh just talk to the AI, talk with your AI and uh say something to the AI and AI does a job.5/8Not AI does the coding, you know. Very stressful you know it's very tough job. And so you can all all need just talk in a your nicely in a language and the AI build up.6/8AI does a list of the job. So that's called vibe coding. And uh I'm I'm trying I'm yeah I've been in this AI vibe coding kind of thing for months or maybe I started actually I encountered or seriously stepped in uh in this AI thing like a year ago.7/8Maybe a little bit late but riding this there's no how say uh yeah you know riding with this new wave, you know. That's maybe uh good stuff, you know, just AI is a hot things yeah you know over all things right now. Yeah so I'm I'm just why not trying this and uh I started and yeah.8/8Yeah actually it's it's kinda like you know you need some kind of effort or study beforehand to start vibe coding yourself or creating app even though it's easy everyone can start. But still some kinda like initial study maybe you know few hours of studying is not that tough but yeah I know that but once you break you clear that stage of initial barrier, uh afterwards it's...NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/4Yeah, look it up -- 'vibe coding' is actually an English term. Let me clarify. We're in the AI era.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 2/4Ten years ago, to build an app you had to learn coding, be a serious engineer. These days you can skip the coding part. You just talk to the AI -- voice, text, whatever -- describe what you want, and the AI does the job.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 3/4The coding -- the stressful, tough part -- gets handed off. You just talk in plain language and the AI builds it. That's vibe coding.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 4/4I've been at it for about a year, a little late to the party but riding the wave. There's a small initial barrier -- a few hours of setup study -- but once you clear that, you're past it.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/3Vibe coding -- actual English term, not Japanese-coined. Quick take: ten years ago, building an app meant learning to be an engineer. Now you literally talk to the AI in plain English, tell it what you want, and it writes the code for you.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 2/3The grinding stressful job? Outsourced. I've been doing this for about a year, a little late, but riding the wave.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 3/3There's a few hours of setup study upfront -- that's the only real barrier. Past that, you're competing with engineers.
- #26講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Hi.
- #27生徒 (とにお)Hello.ネイティブ版未登録
- #28生徒 (とにお)Maybe yeah uh can you your camera off? Can you turn your camera off? That's actually the prompt in the habit.ネイティブ版未登録
- #29講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1I'll try and turn it off yeah.
- #30生徒 (とにお)1/4So everybody now yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. So big person you know intelligent guys right best and brightest guys in the world really focusing on the AI. That's their kind the whole thing because they know that that is a uh only thing that that wins the entire race maybe.2/4So, so I'm not you know we are not that you know genius guys creating AI real stuff but we can ride, we can ride that wave and uh go along with you know why not you know it's maybe many people like hate or uh really have allergy or not not interested in or trying to their uh things start something new in with AI but maybe it's AI uh solves every problem in our era at the end of the day or like we destroy us. And another thing happens yeah. But so I tried and I I really stepped into this era area of AI creating stuff.3/4Just for a year. I'm just in this for a year. So not that not knowledge wise I'm not so much knowledgeable about the current situation or I'm not following up or you know the focusing on the daily updates.4/4I'm not sure but I'm using the some of the AI called uh Claude. Do you know the the Chat GPT or Gemini.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/3So everyone's at it now. The best and brightest in the world are all focused on AI -- they think it's the only thing that wins the entire race. We're not the genius types building the actual AI, but we can ride the wave.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 2/3A lot of people hate it, or have an allergy to it, or just aren't interested -- and maybe in the end AI solves every problem in our era, or maybe it destroys us. Either way, I stepped into the AI-creation space about a year ago. I'm not super deep on the daily updates, but I use one called Claude.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 3/3You know ChatGPT and Gemini, right?ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/2All the smartest people in the world are pouring into AI -- they're treating it like the only race worth winning. We're not the genius builders, but we can ride the wave. Plenty of people have an allergy to AI, refuse to touch it.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 2/2Maybe AI solves everything, maybe it ends us, nobody knows. I jumped in about a year ago. Mostly I use Claude -- you've heard of ChatGPT and Gemini, right?
- #31講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Claude? Yeah I saw something, I saw something about it the other day, that one, Claude. Yeah.
- #32生徒 (とにお)Claude. Yeah Claude is...ネイティブ版未登録
- #33講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Like some type of chat bot.
- #34生徒 (とにお)Anthropic company like kind of starting company, how to say. Not like a big company.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/1It's by Anthropic -- a kind of fledgling company. Not a giant. What's the word -- when a company's just getting going...ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/1Anthropic's the company -- young outfit, not a giant. What's the word I'm reaching for -- when a company is just getting going, not yet famous?
- #35講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Start up.
- #36生徒 (とにお)1/4Start up, yes. Sorry thank you. Start up company.2/4Not famous for you know because. So Google created Gemini, right. Gemini.3/4Most famous AI existed. And Chat GPT. The Open AI, the company Open AI.4/4That also started as a NGO or like not you know company but...NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/2Start up -- yes, thank you. Startup company. Not famous yet.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 2/2So you've got Google's Gemini -- the most famous AI out there. And ChatGPT, made by OpenAI. OpenAI actually started as an NGO -- not a regular for-profit, but...ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/2Start up -- exactly, thanks. Most people only know two: Gemini from Google, ChatGPT from OpenAI. Fun bit -- OpenAI literally started as an NGO.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 2/2Not a regular company. They pivoted later.
- #37講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1It was all open source, right?
- #38生徒 (とにお)Open source, yeah. Um no. Yeah it was an open source but now...ネイティブ版未登録
- #39講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1I know, I'm saying it was in the beginning but once they realized.
- #40生徒 (とにお)Yeah yeah yeah in the beginning, yes yes yes. Yes.ネイティブ版未登録
- #41講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Then they're like okay well we'll forget the open source thing.
- #42生徒 (とにお)Yeah that's why it was called Open AI, right. But then they checked then they...NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/1Yeah -- that's literally why they were called OpenAI in the first place. It was supposed to be open-source. But then they pivoted...ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/2Right -- the name itself was the original promise. 'Open' AI, as in open-source. Then once they saw the money, they kept the name and dropped the open.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 2/2The irony is baked into the brand.
- #43講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Ah good point, good point, yes.
- #44講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1They still kept the open in their name.
- #45生徒 (とにお)Now that's funny reflecting on it but.ネイティブ版未登録
- #46生徒 (とにお)Funny yes yes yes.ネイティブ版未登録
- #47講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1The thing is AI has been around for a long time though.
- #48生徒 (とにお)Oh really?ネイティブ版未登録
- #49講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/2Yeah, yeah. Like AI has been around for like 20 odd years. How long has it been?TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 2/2It's just uh it reached a particular point, yeah. It it like yeah uh it reached a kind of new level recently and it and it's sort of taken off a lot more.
- #50生徒 (とにお)1/3Yeah I forgot the word but yeah yeah it's it's been an age, it's been a point, yeah tipping point or like you know the how say the some of the scientists who are really into this and uh predicted this AI thing. Like 20 36 something happens in you know the the typical point. Once you get over the point, that's just AI building its itself and uh there's no stops you know stop or ethical or everything is AI doing its you know evolving with the non human can cannot touch anymore you know it's kind stage.2/3Maybe we are approaching that stage, I guess, from the outsider's view. But uh from you know I'm not builder, I'm not the developer developer side. So I'm just using I'm just like taking advantage of using this kind of uh yeah yeah yeah amazing stuff.3/3And uh building my own app and uh that helping my helping me learning English of course and uh maybe can make some you know little money, side hustle thing, you know I can maybe can uh sell some apps and uh you know another you know revenue streams coming from that you know my side hustle. On the side I'm doing that. And but just I'm just enjoying yeah.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/3Yeah, I forgot the word -- tipping point, that's it. Some scientists predicted that around 2036 something happens -- the critical point. Once you cross that line, AI starts building itself.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 2/3No stops, no ethics, just AI evolving on its own -- humans can't touch it anymore. We might be approaching that stage, from an outsider's view. I'm not a builder, not a developer, so I'm just taking advantage of the amazing stuff -- building my own app, helping me learn English of course, and maybe making a little side-hustle money -- selling apps, another revenue stream.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 3/3Just enjoying it.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/2Tipping point -- that's the word I was reaching for. Some scientists predicted around 2036 we hit the threshold where AI starts building itself. Ethics, control, all out the window -- the thing evolves and we can't touch it.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 2/2Maybe we're approaching that, hard to tell from the outside. I'm not on the builder side, just riding the wave -- building an app, learning English in the process, hoping for a little side hustle. Mostly just enjoying it.
- #51講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Well what do you have to uh what do you have to study to do this vibe coding? You said there is some element of studying in there that's sort of required.
- #52生徒 (とにお)Um yeah. It's not that study but you know uh I noticed.ネイティブ版未登録
- #53講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Practice using the thing basically.
- #54生徒 (とにお)1/5Yeah, yeah. Yeah but yeah but there's no barrier, yeah. There's no barrier here.2/5Yeah. But so basically uh there's no barrier. Like you can compare you can compete with the some of the greatest engineers then uh because AI is a AI is perfect.3/5AI is more interesting the people alive, most people alive. Most you know AI is genius than Einstein at this stage at this point. So if you can use AI correctly and properly you can you can do everything you want.4/5And that's potentially that's potential is enormous. That's endless. But um it's very difficult to how to say um um learn basic stuff because uh still you know the if you're not uh you don't have a if you don't have a basic knowledge about um coding and uh using you know black screen, you know how to say uh the terminal, we say.5/5Right terminal. The the the application that you have to you you should be familiar with when you are uh developing coding.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/2Yeah -- there's no barrier in one sense. You can compete with the greatest engineers, because AI is essentially perfect -- smarter than most people alive, smarter than Einstein at this point. If you use it correctly, you can do anything.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 2/2The potential is endless. But the basics ARE hard. If you don't have basic coding knowledge -- if you've never used the black screen, the terminal, the application you have to be familiar with when you're developing -- that's the wall.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/3On paper there's no barrier -- in theory you can outcompete the greatest engineers because AI is sharper than most humans alive. Sharper than Einstein at this point. The catch is the basics.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 2/3The black screen. The terminal. If you've never opened that thing, you don't even know where to type.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 3/3That's the real wall.
- #55講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Right. Right.
- #56生徒 (とにお)1/3So most people are they're using just you know you know what I mean. Yeah yeah yeah yes. And you the SNS is yeah you cannot develop your own app with SNS or usual kind of like um dashboard of GPT or Gemini like they're still limited you know that the most people using just using Gemini to write uh emails or you know just search or deep search something but it's you have to be familiar with the developing side, developer side of uh the application the the AI.2/3Especially Claude code because I'm I'm huge fan of Claude code right now but nobody like around me is you know using Claude code. Claude maybe yeah they're using like like GPT or the Gemini they're using because everybody using GPT or Gemini but so say Claude when it comes to like next step. Next, you know, not that far but it's very next to you but that's that's a kind of like wall still.3/3And uh you don't want to pay extra $20 or you know $100 and you are kind of like shutting down the greatest opportunity existed right now. So that's what I what I what I mean what I meant.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/3Most people stop at the dashboard -- GPT or Gemini, the limited version. You can't really build your own app from there. You have to learn the developer side of the AI -- especially Claude Code, which I'm a huge fan of right now.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 2/3But nobody around me uses Claude Code. They stick to ChatGPT or Gemini because that's what everyone uses. When it comes to the next step -- and it's not far, it's right next to you -- but it's still a wall.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 3/3People won't pay the extra $20 or $100, and by doing that they shut themselves out of the greatest opportunity that exists right now.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/2Most people stop at the chatbot dashboard -- emails, search, deep search, that's the ceiling. To actually build something you need the developer side. Specifically Claude Code.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 2/2I'm a huge fan, nobody around me uses it -- everyone's stuck on GPT or Gemini because that's what everyone uses. The next step is right there, an arm's length away, but it's a wall. Twenty bucks, a hundred bucks -- people won't cross that, and they're locking themselves out of the biggest opportunity that exists right now.
- #57講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1In a way the uh the microchips that power the data centers might be where the more guaranteed uh income revenue will come from. Cause they do predict that the AI could be a bit like a bubble, right, with the . com bubble.
- #58生徒 (とにお)Yeah. Yes.ネイティブ版未登録
- #59講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Um so there's so many startups and so many AI companies popping up that some of them will sort of weather the storm but some of the most of them won't actually you know um so it that's another thing to consider. For me I think the safest bet would be in like Nvidia or something.
- #60生徒 (とにお)Ah Nvidia, yeah. Yeah I understand I understand yeah.ネイティブ版未登録
- #61講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/2Not about investing to the software. The the genius or clever way is to just investment invest into the hardware. Right?TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 2/2Actual materials.
- #62生徒 (とにお)Yeah yeah yeah. Cause all the companies that build the data centers you know.ネイティブ版未登録
- #63講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Yeah yeah build centers, yes.
- #64講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/3But but cyber security was a massive one apparently last couple of years. So that's another one. With a VPN and all that.TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 2/3But like you said you can use you could use what you're talking about, that software development thing to make you an app that's a cyber security VPN or something, right? And then suddenly you're competing in the VPN market and you own that intellectual property but you made that app just by using AI vibe coding. Which technically could make you more money than just investing unless you have tons of money to invest.TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 3/3Cause some of the apps make a ton of money in a really short period of time.
- #65生徒 (とにお)Yeah.ネイティブ版未登録
- #66講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1But you never know if it's going to be that perfect one that takes off. Um but I know what you mean technically speaking when it when you're talking about making an app or an online business or something like a website, it can do that for you.
- #67生徒 (とにお)Yes. So. You know, obviously...ネイティブ版未登録
- #68講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/2And that can take off. It's not the same as like trying to make AI create art or create a video game. Cause they say that the video game it can't be as good as the, do you know what I mean.TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 2/2Like the AI can make something that's like a copy of Grand Theft Auto. But it's not Grand Theft Auto. And it will never sell as well as Grand Theft Auto cause it's kinda like...
- #69生徒 (とにお)Yeah. Yeah Grand Theft Auto.ネイティブ版未登録
- #70講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/2But if you're talking about an but if you're talking about an app or a website. You know like it can do a version of Michael Jackson but it's not real Michael Jackson, is it. So it doesn't it's never gonna be as sell as many as Michael Jackson sold if you get what I mean.TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 2/2You know.
- #71生徒 (とにお)Yeah I mean, yeah I understand I understand. Yeah gaming.ネイティブ版未登録
- #72生徒 (とにお)1/2So when it comes to gaming or like creative stuff, creating movies or like you know animation the AI still sucks you know sucks. It's it's not good at you know because you know in a heartbeat you can tell. Oh it's AI thing you know it's not nice you know AI just not good at you know making a game you know from scratch or like.2/2Yeah I know.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/1So when it comes to gaming, creative stuff, movies, animation -- AI still sucks at it. You can tell in a heartbeat -- 'oh, that's AI. ' It's just not good at making a game from scratch.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/2Creative stuff is where AI still falls apart -- gaming, movies, animation. You spot it in a heartbeat. Making a game from scratch with AI?ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 2/2Not there yet. Maybe never.
- #73生徒 (とにお)1/5It's big, because it's really, it's noticeable. It's like how to say it's you can tell. Oh this is AI created stuff or human actually put their effort into it.2/5In this stage. You know how to say uh uh writing wise, I almost impossible to tell the difference between the AI writing this articles or human. You know, because you can tell, you can just suggest the AI to write a little bit, you know off, little bit you know grammatically uncorrected like human you know.3/5You can ask you can make AI creating like some kind of like half baked sound like a human writing stuff. So I think I'm not I I have I cannot tell. You know because I'm telling right now is my uh English, no not English, Japanese uh writing.4/5You know I because I make AI write a lot of emails. You know I don't I'm not at this stage I don't write you know everything. I read up to you know AI, everything.5/5So I can I can tell. Wow if I are like receiving side, yeah I can't tell.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/3It's a big deal -- because it's noticeable. You can tell: 'this is AI' or 'a human actually put effort in. ' But writing-wise, at this stage it's almost impossible to tell the difference.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 2/3You can prompt the AI to write a little bit off, a little ungrammatical, half-baked -- to sound human. So honestly, I can't tell. The Japanese writing I do, I have AI draft most of my emails.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 3/3I don't write everything myself at this stage. If I were on the receiving end, I couldn't tell either.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/2Writing-wise, we already lost. You can prompt AI to write a bit off, slightly ungrammatical, half-baked -- just human enough -- and nobody can tell. Honestly I have AI draft most of my emails.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 2/2If I were the receiver, I couldn't tell either. That's the part that gets me.
- #74講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Do you have to proofread it before you send it?
- #75生徒 (とにお)1/6Yeah of course of course that's that's the you know only job. Proofreading and uh yeah it's somewhat editing you know because. But but I think I at this stage I don't need it anymore.2/6Like oh proofreading editing also will be unnecessary. If it's very scary. But many like people nowadays young people, like AI suggested comments or AI suggested like uh reply uh it's automatically appears in some of application I don't know the what's app or some kind of like SNS you know application.3/6There are like already you know premade premade AI suggested comments. I'm just you send it. You just put the button and it's you know sent to the other person and other person also you know AI suggests you know so nobody watching.4/6It's just a conversation is you know kind of going but nobody you know actually checking or watching just just words like communicated you know just back and forth. But the reality is that nobody watching nobody listening nobody you know reading. Just words you know you know going back and forth and uh that's scary and sad and uh what's the point of conversation right.5/6That's you know opening up another like deep deep philosophical you know issue or like a problem uh we have to deal with right now. But now I'm really appreciate uh this DMM application because there are some you know some of the applications that that that's AI is a teacher right. English teacher.6/6And actually I can use you know just chat GPT because.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/3Yeah, of course -- proofreading and editing, that's the only job left. But honestly at this stage even that's becoming unnecessary, which is scary. Young people now use AI-suggested replies that auto-appear in WhatsApp or SNS apps -- premade comments.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 2/3You just hit the button and send. The other person uses AI suggestions too. So nobody's actually watching, listening, or reading -- words just bounce back and forth, and the reality is no one's there.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 3/3That's scary and sad -- what's the point of conversation? That's a whole other philosophical issue. But that's exactly why I appreciate DMM -- there are AI English-teacher apps, and I could just use ChatGPT, but...ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/3Proofreading used to be the last job left -- now even that's going. The scary part is the young people using AI auto-suggested replies on WhatsApp and SNS. Receiver also uses AI suggestions.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 2/3Conversation happens, but nobody's actually watching, listening, or reading. Two AIs bouncing words back and forth between two humans. What's the point of conversation at that point?ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 3/3Whole philosophical hole. Which is exactly why I started DMM -- I needed an actual human on the other side.
- #76講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Chat GPT is real time. It's no, yeah yeah, you can notice. Yeah.
- #77生徒 (とにお)Yeah you know it, yeah we know that.ネイティブ版未登録
- #78講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Yeah and GPT is like perfectly normal, you know.
- #79生徒 (とにお)Yes.ネイティブ版未登録
- #80生徒 (とにお)You know yeah just you cater to your, they just like you know sucking up to you know it's not like always you know praising you and uh some people in the you know I don't yeah some people don't like you know real conversation anymore. Just.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/1Yeah, GPT just caters to you -- sucks up to you. Always praising. Some people don't even want real conversation anymore -- they just want that.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/1GPT's whole thing is sucking up to you. Always praising, always agreeing. Some people actually prefer that to a real conversation -- no pushback, no friction, just constant validation.
- #81生徒 (とにお)GPT always you know raising or praising and uh good comment on you and uh you know you know it's never right.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/1GPT is always praising you, always giving the good comment -- it's never actually right.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/1Every reply is 'great question. ' 'Brilliant point. ' It's never actually accurate -- it's just designed to feel good.
- #82講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Try and make you happy, yeah.
- #83生徒 (とにお)Yes yes.ネイティブ版未登録
- #84講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Cause it wants to make you happy, yeah.
- #85生徒 (とにお)Yes.ネイティブ版未登録
- #86講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1Cause it's obviously part of the business, do you know what I mean. That they want to give you what you want even if it isn't right or.
- #87生徒 (とにお)Yes yes yes.ネイティブ版未登録
- #88講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1But to tell tell you what you wanna hear basically.
- #89生徒 (とにお)1/4Yes so but I appreciate this real you know you're like uh not dumbing down yourself when you know talking to me in English I'm appreciate that. I'm just I think I I imagine you're just talking to me like natural, natural English speaking and uh I I really appreciate what you're doing here. So yeah but I don't yeah I'm not interested in talking to because um it doesn't ignite my how say uh uh um it doesn't ignite just I'm not I cannot do that with AI.2/4Because I think real human conversation, the the the feeling like feeling that I literally are really speaking to the real person. That's that's only importance for me right now. And that's why I started uh DMM.3/4You know. I can feel oh I'm actually speaking to the actual human. Not AI.4/4AI perfectly making a perfect answers and uh making perfect questions and uh correcting me correcting my English you know perfectly and that's kind of standard like it's it's yeah that's globally yeah it's it's really good but I cannot um how say motivate I cannot maintain motivation when I speaking to the AI. But you guys you know have to speak like you know I'm paying customer, you know I paid you know $100 maybe a month and uh so I have to you know like you know it's it's it's like motivational motivationally wise it's really good to do this yeah DMM.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 1/4Yes -- and I appreciate that you don't dumb yourself down when you talk to me. I imagine you're speaking to me at natural native speed, and I really appreciate that. I'm not interested in talking to AI -- it doesn't ignite anything in me.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 2/4For me, real human conversation, the feeling that I'm literally speaking to a real person -- that's what matters right now. That's why I started DMM. I can feel I'm actually speaking to an actual human, not AI.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 3/4AI makes perfect answers, perfect questions, corrects my English perfectly -- it's the standard, globally good. But I can't maintain motivation talking to AI. With you guys, I'm a paying customer -- $100 a month or so -- so I have to show up.NATIVE俺の表現の修正chunk 4/4Motivationally, DMM works really well for me.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 1/3I really appreciate that you don't dumb yourself down for me. You're talking at native speed and complexity -- that's exactly what I need. AI doesn't ignite that for me, no matter how perfect the questions and corrections are.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 2/3Real human conversation, the feeling of being heard by an actual person -- that's what matters right now. That's why I started DMM. The money helps too, honestly.ENGAGED本物の会話の深さchunk 3/3A hundred bucks a month, I have to show up. You have to show up. With AI you just close the tab.
- #90講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1You can't you can't compare it in a lot of ways. There's each one has its advantages and merits but yeah.
- #91生徒 (とにお)Yeah yeah merits and disadvantages yeah.ネイティブ版未登録
- #92講師TEACHER講師の native 表現chunk 1/1If you want some reliability, professional, trust element, there's a lot of elements that make the human better as a person to do a particular job, but you know.