DMM (南ア81歳講師) — 全文逐語: メシーナ国境キャンプ12,000人 / ODTAA・TANSTAAFL acronym談義 / 逆インタビュー10問 (俺がインタビュアー、DA選挙・GNU・カドレ配置・1994国境開放・ロールフリップ回)

I printed out and gave your article to my wife to read and she was very impressed with what you and ChatGPT have come up with.

But in the meantime, we have another problem that has developed. The people who were rounded up, all the illegal immigrants, have now been dumped on the border at a place called Messina to be documented and hopefully taken through the border. There are over 12,000 of them there in a temporary camp, which is conveniently out of sight, nobody else can see it.

And I'll show you the headline from today's Daily Maverick which highlights this.

So this is the headline of this article. I'll give you the link to it and you can have a look at it later because it is a frightening situation. They've moved 12,000 or more people up, they're neatly out of view of everyone, and they are stuck there on the border because they're only processing about 100 people a day.

So it is already a humanitarian crisis out there. But this country, we lurch from one crisis to another. It's about the only way of describing it, really.

And just on a little English note, that's what's called an acronym. An acronym is a word made up of the first letters of a number of words. So ODTAA means one damn thing after another.

That's the same as scuba. Scuba is an acronym: self-contained underwater breathing apparatus. And conveniently we call it scuba rather than saying all of those words.

We use hundreds of these acronyms every day without even thinking about it. You know, UNESCO. And politicians love acronyms as well.

As a free lunch, yeah. That is coined by a writer called Robert Heinlein. Very, very famous science fiction writer.

He came up with tanstaafl, yeah. I read a lot of science fiction.

Okay, so what would you like to do today, Taishi-san?

No, no, it's a very, very valid question. I think that the Western Cape as a whole will remain DA, but with little pockets, little areas that are going to swing, particularly to Action SA. It's a party led by Herman Mashaba who is an extrovert.

He is at present minister of arts and sport. And they are an opportunist party, they are promising people all sorts of things and as a result they've won a number of local municipal seats already in the Western Cape. But broadly the Western Cape will remain DA.

One of the problems has been a leadership split, so we'll have to see how the new leader of the party manages things.

Very, very definitely a realistic compromise, but it has to be watched carefully. Look, it's already survived for nearly two years, the GNU, but with very definite pulling in different directions. And there was a danger that the ANC would go into a coalition with other parties, with the EFF and the Patriotic Front.

But at the moment several of the ministries are run by DA ministers and they have been very effective. Much more effective than the ANC. So definitely a realistic compromise.

It's infuriated some of the other parties, who feel that the ANC betrayed its founding principles.

It basically falls under something else, and I'm probably going to have to explain this: cadre deployment. The government has rewarded faithful followers by giving them public posts, making them mayors and members of councils, which they are totally incapable of doing. They don't have the experience, they don't have the know-how.

All they have is a very nice plum job and a big salary. And they don't know what they are doing in most cases. So that has resulted in the falling apart of water supply, electricity, that sort of thing.

Yeah, it's a weak leader, I'm afraid. Ramaphosa has proved himself to be a very, very weak leader. He's got no spine, he's too scared of losing support.

Because he has not acted strongly enough, he has gone along with this rewarding of faithful party members. He puts party above country.

It's difficult to explain that one because we are so partitioned. Where I live is a very happy little suburb, but as part of Cape Town, you have Khayelitsha, you have Gugulethu, the black areas where there have definitely been burning of shops, people disappearing. So the mood differs from one area to another.

In predominantly white areas it's just one of dismay; in black areas it's a much more serious situation. My son employs a Malawian, a chap from Malawi, and we were very worried that he might get caught up and taken away, disappear. So far he is okay, but we're still concerned about him.

Difficult to say. In 1994, there was a general euphoria. A feeling that South Africa was a new country, we had one of the best constitutions in the world and so on.

And they felt a big sense of gratitude to countries in Africa for supporting them. And so they allowed this relatively free entry into South Africa. But many people, to be quite honest, myself and my wife and others, were concerned right from the beginning.

This didn't seem like a good idea.

It carries huge problems. These people coming in as refugees, really. But you have only to look at England, what has happened there because of the Commonwealth.

They allowed almost free entry to people from India, from Pakistan, and it's changed the whole demographic of parts of England. There are areas in England that have changed their entire nature; they're like small Pakistani cities or Indian cities.

I don't know to what extent this is actual fact, but yeah, it is a very big problem. Many of the farms employ foreigners, often for lower wages. Whether they're going to survive without them I don't know.

Some of the big wine and fruit farms do employ local seasonal workers. I've actually got some very close friends who own apple farms. I'll ask them what their situation is.

We have a Mediterranean climate which is very suitable to growing apples, pears, oranges, and huge grape plantations, vineyards as well. The amount of rain that you get can change the nature of a grape completely. So we have very much of a fruit growing area.

Fruit and other types of harvests as well, corn, maize, grain.

If you want to have a look, you might find it on Google, an area just outside Cape Town called the Swartland, which is a very big agricultural area, part of the Western Cape. It's beautiful out there.

The answer to number seven is yes. It's terribly reminiscent of the old pass laws, having to carry papers and so on.

Yes, a lot of the Cape foods. But the thing is they're not only Khoisan, there's also a very strong Malay influence. We have a big Malaysian community and they brought their foods with them, blatjang, all sorts of other names of foods.

Incidentally, you might look up Hottentot when you get a chance, because that was the local name used for the Khoisan people in the Western Cape. And it's regarded as not a good word, as a rather derogatory word.

We've got mountains just across the bay that are known as the Hottentots Holland. So it still exists in names and so on.

I haven't seen the film, I've never watched it. But yes, there was tremendous sense of unity. The fact that we had a black captain of the Springbok rugby team was quite something for older white people to swallow, but now everybody is happy with it and sport has had an incredibly powerful effect of unifying the country.

One only had to watch the rugby game on Saturday evening, when we played England, to watch all the black people in the crowd yelling and supporting their local team.

No, no, definitely not. We have very good local repair handymen and so on. I am very Jewish, Welsh, Scottish when it comes to money — I hate spending money if I can do something myself.

And also it's a sense of independence, that I have been able to do these things myself. I, for example, painted my entire roof myself a few years ago using mountain ropes and things like that. I couldn't do that now.

There's a sense of achievement involved in it as well. And it would have cost a lot of money. Even when I went up and did that work on the roof last week, I was aware of just how unsteady I am, and I don't want to fall off that roof — I'm going to break far too many things.

We've been lucky, the weather's absolutely beautiful out there today. That is the roof that I painted, and it took quite some doing. But I couldn't do that now.

I can paint the other roof where I was working because it's flat, and it actually needs a repaint job. So I will do that. Okay, thanks Taishi-san.

Read this article if you can get to it.

Yeah, we need to work on English and language as well. Okay. Thanks Taishi-san.

See you next time. Bye bye.